Can I suggest that we all start lobbying our MP's about the ridiculous sentences that are being dished out. It is an absolute disgrace that we allow murderers to serve these short sentences, life should mean life not a minimum of 13 years. This is no deterant and an offence to the victims.

Jane Ross, Surrrey, UK

How does a sentance of 13 years become a life sentence??? Or does it go against the human rights of this killer to actually keep him in jail till he dies? The same with the killers of Baby P, they will be free in less than 15 years but still the records will show they had a life sentence.

Anand, Reading, UK

How does one describe this kind of crime where there seems to be no motive other than desire to hurt someone? Could it be called "a recreational murder?" Even as recently as 10 years ago, I don't remember crimes like this being reported

Phil, Scarborough, Canada

The problem is marijuana. It has completely numbed a whole generation of Britons and this whole time people are blaming the class As. Marijuana has dulled the brains, induced schitzophernia and detatched an entire generation who are too stoned to realised they are hooked.

Alex, London,

I was attacked on halloween, but thankfully got off lightly

the goverment needs to put harsher sentences on these people

otherwise were just going to see more and more yob related deaths.

Kyle, Preston,

Again another life lost another family destroyed, the custodial system is not deterent when the do gooders go on about infringing their human rights. Jail is a punishment after all. We should have chain gangs with prisoners doing menial jobs by hand in all weathers. hard labour is punishment!!!!!

chris, Merthyr Tydfil , UK

there are plenty of good people out there that are good role models for young people, and many kids that grow up in bad homes dont turn into killers...it is not an excuse and like someone said prison should be somewhere to prevent them from doing it to some other poor undeserving soul.

delia brooks, colchester, United Kingdom

It is numbing to read of a youth stomping a father to death, then bragging on video and getting, as a result, 13 years detention with meals and medical and continued bragging. The callousness of the act, the cold pride in taking life, and a system that talks big while watching the problem escalate.

Carson, Leatherhead,

Spot on Elga, spot on. How saddening that this story is not at all surprising.

Carl, London,

Alan, what do you mean "Just put them away for good, regardless of the cost"? Do you genuinely think that's the best way to treat the problem? Incarceration without adequate rehabilitative measures aggravates the problem. What is needed is for the govt to stop re-offending and help the "underclass".

Dónal, Cambridge, England

When children do not act like children and commit heinous crimes, the justice system should see them as criminals and not as misguided youth. The sense of being a human is same for everybody and when an action is committed that lacks this sense, then it is just pure evil.

Manu, Chennai, India

Time to bring back capital punishment ?

Stuart, Sutton Coldfield, UK

The sentence is appallingly light. I cannot fathom a society that might expose itself to this person a mere 13 years from now. It is unwise from an incapacitation standpoint and insufficient from retributative standpoint. More than this, it is also an insult to the memory of the victim.

John D., Los Angeles, California

There may be exceptions and I may be wrong, but I think that these youths' punishment began when they were born into loveless homes, and in the further course of their young lives there was nobody who cared enough to show them that there are alternatives to bad behaviour and finally crime.

Elga, Bergisch Gladbach, Germany

he doesn't say 'eyes of a killer'.he says' i is a killer',yob speak,ali -g etc

chris s , montagu, rsa

We now have an underclass of people who have never worked or valued anything in their lives.Violence is common both in the home and on the streets and recent dreadful news story's reflect this situation.Just put them away for good, regardless of the cost

Alan, Leatherhead, UK

life should mean life no matter of age or skin colour.
at last a judge gives a sentance to a crime that deserves prison well done that man.
my thoughts go out to the family of the victim there is at least some justice for there loss.

william, leeds, united kingdom

He's 18- he's getting 13 years, so he's 31 when he comes out? how is that life?

Craig Mansfield, Newcastle, UK

Be careful what you wish for.

"It is high time that the Government got on with fixing this before it is too late."

This statement is scarier than the murder.

And I'm sure the government will be more than happy to grant your wish.

Gildea, Los Angeles, United States

It is ignorant and insulting to use these murderers as representatives for the 'children in this country'. What about prospective university students, potential officers and soldiers or those keen to join a respected profession? The children in this country are only influenced by older generations.

John, Hull,

when is somebody going to have the bottle and say "we have all had it wrong" mike is so right in what he says no discipline but just think how many jobs this crazy system has created, thousand upon thousand so I think it will never change mores the pity.

dave, stalybridge, england

It is too late.

C Achmed, Woodmansey, England

What on earth is happening to children in this Country ? The fact is they have no discipline, no father figures and some of the parents are either hooked on drugs or drink. It is high time that the Government got on with fixing this before it is too late.

mike, london, uk